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    Illegal immigrants can now enroll in community college in NJ

    For the first time in nearly a decade, illegal immigrants will be allowed to take classes at the County College of Morris in a policy change that is drawing praise from some education officials and sharp criticism from immigration policy activists. The trustees at the Randolph-based college voted 7-1 earlier this week to reverse a rule barring undocumented students, school officials said. Starting this summer, the public two-year college will be one of the first schools in New Jersey to openly acknowledge it is enrolling illegal immigrants and allowing them to pay the same tuition rate as other county residents.

    "Over the last two years, we’ve become aware of an increasing number of students who were educated in the public schools, who got good grades and, because of our policy, could not be educated here," said Edward Yaw, president of the County College of Morris. "They either had to attend other county colleges or pay significantly more to attend another school."
    The policy barring illegal immigrants was enacted in 2002 in response to security concerns following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. CCM’s reversal surprised many higher education officials and immigration activists who said the 8,800-student school was one of the only state colleges to actively bar illegal immigrants.

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    Most of New Jersey’s two- and four-year colleges have a "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy when it comes to admitting illegal immigrants. Applicants are not asked for Social Security numbers when they apply, so the colleges do not know if they are in the country illegally.
    However, public colleges usually require illegal students to pay out-of-state tuition rates if they can’t prove they live in New Jersey legally. Undocumented students are also not eligible for state or federal financial aid.

    CCM will be one of the first schools in the state to establish a clear set of rules for enrolling illegal students. Under the new policy, only students who are 35 or younger and graduated from a U.S. high school are eligible. Students must also prove they entered the U.S. before age 16 and lived in the country at least five consecutive years.

    The illegal immigrant students will be charged Morris’ in-county tuition rates — $115 a credit or about $3,450 a year, plus fees, for a full-time student. "They can’t get federal or state financial aid," Yaw said.
    Critics believe it is wrong for a taxpayer-funded institution to openly admit illegal immigrants.

    "The laws of our country need to be enforced and obeyed," said Ron Bass, founder of the United Patriots of America, a Linden-based group that has called for tougher immigration laws. "Morris County College is in violation of our federal law."
    Immigration activists said they consider the CCM policy change a major victory.

    "I’m excited . . . We can tell that the tide is turning," said Marisol Conde-Hernandez, 23, an illegal immigrant enrolled at Rutgers University who has lobbied for more college access for undocumented students.
    In the past year, legislation that would have allowed illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition at New Jersey colleges failed to pass. The federal DREAM Act, which would have helped illegal students gain legal status, also failed to make it through Congress.

    Other higher education officials praised the Morris County school for joining the New Jersey colleges enrolling illegal immigrants.

    "The County College of Morris is taking a step in the right direction," said G. Jeremiah Ryan, president of Bergen Community College, which already admits undocumented students. "Bergen will continue to support the removal of barriers to educational opportunities for the students we serve."

    County College of Morris votes to allow illegal immigrants to enroll in classes | NJ.com

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    Kinda weird how they don't require a SSN. Then again, I am sure colleges in New Jersey are desperate for any students they can get.
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    Glad I don't pay taxes in NJ.... supporting a school system to educate people there illegally.

    Maybe we should give financial aid, and if they don't qualify give them some scholarships...


    Utter bullshit... and my wife and I are currently paying $1k a month in student loan payments while money is given to non-residents to attend.
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    that is some serious bullshit.
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    This is great news. A lot of young minds who would else be without an education can finally get one. This type of change should spread to more colleges. I know that money and tax payer money and all that is a concern but if they do not get federal aid and dont pay instate tuition then I dont see a problem with them attending if they can gather up the money themselves. People need to realize that most young illegals who graduate from high school were brought here at a young age. They had no say when it came to coming here. Most of their lives was spent here so they are adapted to this country. I applaud the County College of Morris.

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    Listen, if they get educated they will start getting uppity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluto316 View Post
    Listen, if they get educated they will start getting uppity.
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    Next thing you know they are going to start wanting rights. Not in my America.
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    Rights they can have, after they go through the process for legalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProsperousGuardian79 View Post
    Schooling they can have, after they go through the process for legalization.
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    Damn second class citizens, all wanting to get ahead, have some opportunities. Morons. Spanish is the new black.
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    god **** man get a citizenship!!!
    and dont we give foreigners a visa to go to the school in the united states?
    I guess if you break the law these days its ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1997GST View Post
    god **** man get a citizenship!!!
    and dont we give foreigners a visa to go to the school in the united states?
    I guess if you break the law these days its ok.
    Going to college isn't a crime. Sure, not being a legal citizen is, but, if we keep them repressed (since kicking them out isn't the answer), they'll just continue to be leeches to the system. Get them educated, skilled, citizenship, and give them the chance to be a productive member of society, as opposed to the horrid creatures you view them as. Do you hate everything, or just what is different from yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catdaddy
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    **** the worthless piles of dog shit that are too ****ing pathetic, lazy and poor to come to this country legally and live off our government and our benefits. meanwhile honest hard working people spend up to years trying to get themselves into this country legally. i say we send every piece of shit drain illegal back to the shit hole they came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaracer View Post
    **** the worthless piles of dog shit that are too ****ing pathetic, lazy and poor to come to this country legally and live off our government and our benefits. meanwhile honest hard working people spend up to years trying to get themselves into this country legally. i say we send every piece of shit drain illegal back to the shit hole they came from.
    That's great, but it isn't going to happen. They're here, what do we do with them? I think an education is a great idea. Afterwards, if they return home, they can use their education to better their country (which would reduce the amount of them headed our way). Or, they can use that education here, to better help those with little understanding, to realize they're not all criminals, and can actually be productive members of society. I'd rather pay (which will inevitably happen), for someone's education, than pay for them to be in jail or thrown back to a third world country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Editor View Post
    Going to college isn't a crime. Sure, not being a legal citizen is, but, if we keep them repressed (since kicking them out isn't the answer), they'll just continue to be leeches to the system. Get them educated, skilled, citizenship, and give them the chance to be a productive member of society, as opposed to the horrid creatures you view them as. Do you hate everything, or just what is different from yourself?
    Finally someone who thinks some what similar to me. They need a chance become like you said "a productive member of society". A lot of people view them as leeches on our system and while this is true to some extent thats not the case for all of them. Some of them are honest, hardworking people and they should be given the chance to improve themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Editor View Post
    That's great, but it isn't going to happen. They're here, what do we do with them? I think an education is a great idea. Afterwards, if they return home, they can use their education to better their country (which would reduce the amount of them headed our way). Or, they can use that education here, to better help those with little understanding, to realize they're not all criminals, and can actually be productive members of society. I'd rather pay (which will inevitably happen), for someone's education, than pay for them to be in jail or thrown back to a third world country.
    Couldnt have said it better myself. This actually has some validity to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProsperousGuardian79 View Post
    Rights they can have, after they go through the process for legalization.
    said it before, i'll say it again. our rights are based in our humanity, not in our citizenship...

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